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Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jan 29 @ 12:12 AM ET
Jan Levine: Game 45: NYI 4 NYR 1, Isles Continue Domination of Blueshirts Your Comments, My View on Them
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 29 @ 1:41 AM ET
Bear with me on this:
Glass and a late pick for M. Richards...Kings retain 50% of salary and cap hit.

Richards would get $2.875M from NY which is $1.3M more than Glass is eating up now (full year numbers w/o CapGeek to do the math for me) for a veteran who still seems to perform well in the playoffs. He certainly has more use than Glass. Worst case scenario send him to Hartford and someone will probably jump at taking him off your hands for that price. Maybe you get lucky and the guy regains his form like Selanne did when he returned to Anaheim in which case you get a 20+ goal scorer.

Kings are saddled with $4.825M even with Richards in the AHL. This move saves them an extra $500k immediately and if they waive or bury Glass they save even more. Worst case scenario, Glass only has a 3yr deal vs Richards 5 and they save an extra $2M/yr once Glass is gone. Lombardi gets to unload the contract after failing to use his compliance buyout and gets to save face with the players by saying the move gives Richards another lease on life with an NHL club. The move doesn't really help the hockey club, but it helps the GM and Richards isn't adding any value not being on the roster.
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 29 @ 1:45 AM ET
also because it still grinds my gears:

You know who is a great 4c with size, good in faceoffs, and strong in both ends of the ice: Brian Boyle
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 29 @ 6:48 AM ET
Bear with me on this:
Glass and a late pick for M. Richards...Kings retain 50% of salary and cap hit.

Richards would get $2.875M from NY which is $1.3M more than Glass is eating up now (full year numbers w/o CapGeek to do the math for me) for a veteran who still seems to perform well in the playoffs. He certainly has more use than Glass. Worst case scenario send him to Hartford and someone will probably jump at taking him off your hands for that price. Maybe you get lucky and the guy regains his form like Selanne did when he returned to Anaheim in which case you get a 20+ goal scorer.

Kings are saddled with $4.825M even with Richards in the AHL. This move saves them an extra $500k immediately and if they waive or bury Glass they save even more. Worst case scenario, Glass only has a 3yr deal vs Richards 5 and they save an extra $2M/yr once Glass is gone. Lombardi gets to unload the contract after failing to use his compliance buyout and gets to save face with the players by saying the move gives Richards another lease on life with an NHL club. The move doesn't really help the hockey club, but it helps the GM and Richards isn't adding any value not being on the roster.

- Maskdman3


I had pretty much the same suggestion the other day. But, I do believe the Kings are going to succesfully find a deal with a team that will require them to hold on to money on his contract yet not also have to take on another contract like Glass.

Your scenario would be great for the Rangers, but I think the Kings will do better
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 29 @ 7:03 AM ET
Bear with me on this:
Glass and a late pick for M. Richards...Kings retain 50% of salary and cap hit.

Richards would get $2.875M from NY which is $1.3M more than Glass is eating up now (full year numbers w/o CapGeek to do the math for me) for a veteran who still seems to perform well in the playoffs. He certainly has more use than Glass. Worst case scenario send him to Hartford and someone will probably jump at taking him off your hands for that price. Maybe you get lucky and the guy regains his form like Selanne did when he returned to Anaheim in which case you get a 20+ goal scorer.

Kings are saddled with $4.825M even with Richards in the AHL. This move saves them an extra $500k immediately and if they waive or bury Glass they save even more. Worst case scenario, Glass only has a 3yr deal vs Richards 5 and they save an extra $2M/yr once Glass is gone. Lombardi gets to unload the contract after failing to use his compliance buyout and gets to save face with the players by saying the move gives Richards another lease on life with an NHL club. The move doesn't really help the hockey club, but it helps the GM and Richards isn't adding any value not being on the roster.

- Maskdman3

If Mike Richards retires before the end of his contract, any team he played on after the new CBA was signed gets hit with the full cap recapture penalties. These penalties hit us with dead cap space of up to $10M I believe for 2 or 3 years.

Hell no to Richards.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 29 @ 7:22 AM ET
If Mike Richards retires before the end of his contract, any team he played on after the new CBA was signed gets hit with the full cap recapture penalties. These penalties hit us with dead cap space of up to $10M I believe for 2 or 3 years.

Hell no to Richards.

- rangerdanger94


I thought the cap re-capture penalties went to the original team

but regardless, I really don't think we are trading for Mike Richards. I don't think it's a topic worthy of spending the entire day on.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 29 @ 7:48 AM ET
I thought the cap re-capture penalties went to the original team

but regardless, I really don't think we are trading for Mike Richards. I don't think it's a topic worthy of spending the entire day on.

- jimbro83

Nope. Any team he plays for gets hit with it too. And it doesn't get split, both teams get hit with the entire penalty.

And yea you're right. I think there are other moves (Vermette) that would help us more and have less risk. Obviously it would cost more in terms of assets but he's a better player.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jan 29 @ 7:53 AM ET
Jan Levine: Game 45: NYI 4 NYR 1, Isles Continue Domination of Blueshirts
Your Comments, My View on Them

- airjan23

Hope for a speedy recovery for the pooch
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jan 29 @ 8:29 AM ET
Rangers really need this win tonight. Need a full team effort.

I really hope they don't scratch Miller, but it looks like an inevitability
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jan 29 @ 8:50 AM ET
Trading Carl Hagelin? Really?

If that were to happen, which I can't believe, what would you be looking for in return?
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jan 29 @ 9:38 AM ET
Nice work Jan, the 3rd and 4th lines aren't clearly defined,if you can find a line that meshes then you have 3 players to figure out instead of 6
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 29 @ 9:44 AM ET
Nope. Any team he plays for gets hit with it too. And it doesn't get split, both teams get hit with the entire penalty.

And yea you're right. I think there are other moves (Vermette) that would help us more and have less risk. Obviously it would cost more in terms of assets but he's a better player.

- rangerdanger94

Not true. The Flyers signed him to that contract and traded him before the 2013 CBA was agreed upon so they are exempt from facing those penalties.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jan 29 @ 9:46 AM ET
Not true. The Flyers signed him to that contract and traded him before the 2013 CBA was agreed upon so they are exempt from facing those penalties.
- eichiefs9

Read my original post. I said any team he plays for after the new CBA was signed.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:02 AM ET
Read my original post. I said any team he plays for after the new CBA was signed.
- rangerdanger94

You win this round.

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
http://snyrangersblog.com...ck-down-on-chris-kreider/

Man I really hope he keeps doing it. Piss off more goalies
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 29 @ 10:15 AM ET
Trading Carl Hagelin? Really?

If that were to happen, which I can't believe, what would you be looking for in return?

- kingcong39

Chris Stewart and a 3rd. Get it done.[/img]
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jan 29 @ 10:20 AM ET
http://snyrangersblog.com/2014-15/2014-15-players/chris-kreider/montreal-radio-wants-the-league-to-crack-down-on-chris-kreider/

Man I really hope he keeps doing it. Piss off more goalies

- TPC


Cmon man... One day someone is going to retaliate and run the queen and you guys wont be happy.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:22 AM ET
Cmon man... One day someone is going to retaliate and run the queen and you guys wont be happy.
- Danformo

Hank has been run plenty of times before Kreider hit anyone.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jan 29 @ 10:24 AM ET
Cmon man... One day someone is going to retaliate and run the queen and you guys wont be happy.
- Danformo

If someone has the replay to post I'm 99% sure Hamonic gave him a shot in the lower back before he bumped into Halak. There was a looonngg period of time other teams would run Hank numerous times a game and nothing would be done.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:25 AM ET
If someone has the replay to post I'm 99% sure Hamonic gave him a shot in the lower back before he bumped into Halak. There was a looonngg period of time other teams would run Hank numerous times a game and nothing would be done.
- nyrangers9479

Kreider is one of the few players on the team who go hard to the net. He better never stop, they need that traffic in front.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:27 AM ET
Cmon man... One day someone is going to retaliate and run the queen and you guys wont be happy.
- Danformo


you expect to come in here and call him "the queen" and be taken seriously?
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 29 @ 10:36 AM ET
Chris Stewart and a 3rd. Get it done.
- nyrangers9479[/img]



Maybe something bigger w/ARZ for Vermette & Doan but don't think the cap space is available??? These are 2 players u desperately need....
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jan 29 @ 10:47 AM ET
Cmon man... One day someone is going to retaliate and run the queen and you guys wont be happy.
- Danformo

It's OK Halak will collapse on his own, he was always does
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jan 29 @ 10:48 AM ET
you expect to come in here and call him "the queen" and be taken seriously?
- jimbro83

This is why there can't be civility
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 29 @ 10:48 AM ET
Cmon man... One day someone is going to retaliate and run the queen and you guys wont be happy.
- Danformo

It's happened before Kreider was in the league.


Thank you, come again.
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